call or visit us online and get this free guide. >>> thank you for joining us. there's a saying, i'm probably sure you've heard it. the person who represents himself has a fool for a client. who hasn't heard that? it may or may not be true. i guess it depends but if you do decide to represent yourself there are things you should keep in mind. adam sean cohen from the cohen law firm and elisa gype from the lawyer referral and information service. thank you for coming in. >> thank you tore having us. >> this is a great thing to talk about. there are some people who, for whatever the reason may want to represent themselves or can't afford it. what would you say to somebody who is considering that? >> if you're considering it or made the decision to represent yourself, you want to be prepared as best as possible going into it. you want to know the ins and outs of how to file paperwork. you want to know what to do and definitely know what not to do. and there are a lot of services out there. three in particular that can help you. so that you can receive guidance alon